Modern Art Vs. Production Art…
Some TL;DR things I gotta get off my chest, and to explain just what “drawing” is.
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Some TL;DR things I gotta get off my chest, and to explain just what “drawing” is.
Duration : 0:42:57
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December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
What I meant is …
What I meant is that you cannot “quantify” Modern art principles and ideas. They are not concrete objects that can be measured and weighed. It’s a gut feeling and that is all it is. I would never claim that Art is any higher in its thought processes than Math or Science is, but this guy has made it sound as if artistic thought processes are LESS than mathematical ones, an unwise belief. Just because it doesn’t fit into the patterned networks of math doesn’t mean its not as legitimate.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
“Mathematics cannot …
“Mathematics cannot be applied to artistic principles.”
I disagree. Just because we (as humans) didn’t know the formulas doesn’t mean that they weren’t true before. Men simply discovered them as truth. The golden ratio wasn’t always known, but it was always in everything, which is why it was discovered, not founded.
Also, it seems to me that you’re treating “art” as something divine, as if you’re doing “art” for the sake of being an “artist.”
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
This is the last …
This is the last comment I will leave. For all 40 minutes I sat utterly bewildered by what you were trying to do here. Are we talking about energy transferrance of the food chain, or art? The fact that you teach artistic mediums to people is a little bit distressing. You expect the artist to do everything FOR you, with little to no thought on your part. Then you complain about not “getting it.” I don’t think that production artists are whores, and the term “avant-garde” is over used!Ignorance!
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Let Go! Be …
Let Go! Be spontaneous and Let go!
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
That is why almost …
That is why almost every “Famous” modern artist has been educated at an institution, with the exception of a few outsider artists, and some self-taught geniuses. Picasso was classically trained (to borrow your example) and was a master of realism before he invented cubist imagery. He discovered a style of painting never before seen.But just because the “discovery” may be illusive doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Art is the gray area and you are trying to see it in High contrast Black and White.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Mathematics cannot …
Mathematics cannot be applied to the artistic principles, because the principles of art have been around ever since man externalized his views onto cave walls and Math is something that we have slowly learned. You are comparing something which is engrained in human nature with something that is a product of an environment. And when referring to any Abstract Expressionist you never talk about “visible source.” It is non-objective, human emotion organically created on canvas.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Consummate v’s.
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Consummate v’s.
Consummate.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
i just wanna draw a …
i just wanna draw a dragon
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Keep it up. I’m …
Keep it up. I’m inspired, and I’m actually going to practice ‘drafting’, and doing the exercises you’ve suggested.
Had I not seen this video, I would have probably continued to be the ignoranus telling himself ‘I don’t want to practice, I just want to draw!’ lol.
Again, great video, and I will share it with others!
God bless!
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I created a youtube …
I created a youtube account just to comment on this tremendous video!
What an amazingly enjoyable video. It’s as if I’ve spent a good afternoon talking with you. Watched the entire video; thoroughly agree with your very sensible, correct and logically sound arguments; and I thoroughly enjoyed watching this.
I’m more confident that your take on this whole debate is a passionate one, and not an emotionally irrational one as others may somewhat subtly suggest.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
You seem to have a …
You seem to have a bit of dirt on your web cam. You can see it when you move on your left shirt collar.
I surprised my self by watching the whole thing.
I love these videos that reek of sobriety and are very lacking in bullshit.
I’ve been trying to figure out that to do that would keep me awake while listening to a book in bed. Flicking through pictures is too distracting. Your excesses are perfect.
I was sad to see it end so suddenly.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I have a fellow …
I have a fellow student in AP art, and he’s kind of the big modern arts fan with brushes and acrylics slapping everywhere. I like to study study study. Last week, we had a mixed media project. He asked me what I’m doing and I said that I’m planning out my composition, and he told me, “You gotta believe that everything happens for a reason.” I don’t get it.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
a good drawer never …
a good drawer never copies reality, thats beauty about a good drawer. The personal touch something you see in real drawings / paintings and not in a photograph. Modern art is about hmm i feel kinda mad lets trow some pain rly rly hard.. ‘ did u see how mad i was? ‘ blaargh it sucks. And then they call it inspiration. Art is 10% inspiration 90% transperation..
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Thanks for all your …
Thanks for all your videos. They’re are helpful and motivating.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
A lot of artists …
A lot of artists and their admirers profess that you gotta be intelligent in order to understand art with deep meaning.
Well, it takes a genius to understand AND make oneself understandable to an inarticulate person.
If the Emperor of the Art World is stands in front of everyone wearing nothing and His Tailor says he’s wearing a new light breathable fabric and everyone agrees — he’s still stark naked.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Aw, look at you… …
Aw, look at you…you are such a bleeding heart.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Thank you so much …
Thank you so much for making these videos. They are infinitely helpful and I always learn something new!
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
How people …
How people understand a term can change its meaning – for example a “quantum leap” is used to denote: “A sudden large increase or advance”
In actuality it was a scientific term used to describe the change of an electron from one quantum state to another within an atom. It’s not a large change – it’s probably one of the tiniest changes ever considered, although the INTRODUCTION of the theory WAS a huge advance.
So the meaning of the word was hijacked by our perception of its meaning.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Modern Art used to …
Modern Art used to be a term that reflected a movement of artists who wanted expand upon the possibilities of what could and couldn’t be done with their current processes/techniques(as you explained), but now it is used almost entirely when referring to “avante-garde” art.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
“[Modern Art] is …
“[Modern Art] is usually associated with art in which the traditions of the past have been thrown aside in a spirit of experimentation”
Gombrich 1958, p. 419.
Experimentation is good when you want to find new ways to do something, but without a solid grounding in “doing things the boring way”, practitioners have no basis for their experiments. There’s no specific discovery sought after during the experiments – and that’s what’s going on most of the time.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Modern art has very …
Modern art has very much been a response from the artistic community to the advent of photography. While I have to disagree that modern art is necessarily bad, many people have developed a misinterpretation of it that you illustrated very well here. Modern art, at it’s core, is an exploration of concept and design elements as well as, to a lesser extent, the culture surrounding it.
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Tell us more! HOW …
Tell us more! HOW is he good? I want insight from someone who sees something I don’t — not just someone who’s going along with all the hype! What makes his work special?
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Ah, man can’t agree …
Ah, man can’t agree with you on that one, Picasso’s the sh*t!
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Picasso DID have …
Picasso DID have the skills to draw realistically before his descent into abstraction. Who knows? A lot of the paints that artists used back then were quite toxic – cadmium, lead, cobalt…
But then we’ve got these Johnny-come-lately abstract artists who think they can become the next Pablo Picasso and I think they’re really doin’ it for the money (and with as little effort as possible) while saying the complete opposite all the while.
Like I said: Those who buy art get what they pay for!
December 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I won’t go and say …
I won’t go and say that every bit of art that is produced has to be 100% photorealistic — but things like perspective and composition should be heeded — people should know the rules before they bend them or break them — and always for a good reason besides “because I felt like it” or “because it’s my style”.